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My Thoughts on Raw Diets

When I first started my odyssey toward better health and living and finally learned about a raw diet, I had seriously considered it for myself and my family.  It almost made sense to me—eating enzyme rich foods which easily digest and assimilate would be the way to go!  However, I quickly noticed a few things.

Why Not All Raw All the Time

  1. I would have to be grazing nearly all the time, unless I included calorie packed food into my diet. With our busy lives it is impractical not to include some calorie dense foods (i.e. cooked foods) into our meal intake, otherwise we would, just like animals, be grazing and munching all the time—up to 8 hours a day.  And who would want that?  I found that most raw foodists reserved to consuming oils and nuts to meet this caloric intake, instead of simply including some cooked foods, which are more beneficial and carry no concentrated oils.
  2. As such, the raw community is suffering from nut and oil overconsumption—most recipes that I found had some sort of a nut or oil base, which I could not agree with (read There are No Healthy Oils article). I read of preposterous suggestions, such as: add 1 tbsp of coconut oil to your smoothies, because coconut oil is “good for you”.  I have seen and even tried “raw” pies which were made with nothing more than coconut oil and nuts, topped off with plant sweeteners.  I have seen salad dressings calling for ¼+ cup of oil, etc. All of this simply did not sit well with me.
  3. I learned that most in the raw community consumed 10-15% of their diet cooked, so it was more about labeling oneself raw rather than having a truly raw diet.
  4. There is not enough education in the raw community (and in the vegan community in general at that) about practical ways to sustain life-long raw /vegan food choices, without including some animal foods at one point or another.  At times I had learned of some raw foodists consuming animal foods, in secret (it was bad enough they felt they had to hide!), because they found they were lacking something in their bodies, and without properly understanding a well-balanced diet along with B-12 supplementation they simply did not know better.

Now, am I saying that a fully raw vegan diet is not possible to achieve and practice? Not at all! There might be a few people out there who do raw diet right.  However, in the latest news releases I found that even those, considered pillars and founders in the raw community, are now working cooked foods back into their diet.  If you are interested, take a few minutes to read this interview with Victoria Boutenko, regarding her new book release, in which she uncovers her reasons not to be 100% raw anymore.  Here is a small excerpt from the article:

Q…what flaws have you discovered in the raw diet?

A: I found an error in my favorite statement “anything raw is superior to anything cooked.” For example, I compared the nutritional value of raw cabbage versus cooked cabbage, raw potatoes versus fried potatoes, raw walnuts versus roasted walnuts, and so on. The conclusion seemed clear to me. What I failed to think about was if there was any cooked food that had more nutritional value over any raw food. What is more nourishing: steamed asparagus or cashew nuts? Lightly cooked red cabbage or an ounce of raw almond butter? A baked apple or a slice of a raw dessert? I know now these cooked foods are nutritionally superior, but I didn’t know then to ask these questions.”

“Qin the book, Chad Sarno talks about how a high-oil raw diet sent his cholesterol and triglycerides through the roof, which put him at risk for heart disease. You also talk at length about omega-3s throughout the book. Tell us why you think they’re vital to good health, and the best way to get them?

A: The latest scientific research reveals that the vast majority of us are seriously deficient in omega-3 essential fatty acids, causing thousands of preventable deaths each year. It became apparent to me that omega-3 fatty acids were essential to positive rejuvenation and healing in the body, while as raw foodists we were consuming too many omega-6s (most nuts have an extremely high omega-6 content, with almonds containing 2,000 times more omega-6s than omega-3s). Fortunately, omega-3s are widely available in all greens, especially spinach, romaine, arugula, and purslane, as well as in flax seeds, walnuts, hemp, and chia seeds.”

So, with these thoughts and evidence in mind, and the fact that our modern nutrition “god-fathers”—T Colin Campell, Caldwell Esselstyn, Dr. Barnard any many others—hold to the same view, I was easy at rest having chosen a high raw diet, while consuming some delicious, fat free cooked foods and enjoying optimal health. What you choose, of course, is up to you, but make sure to think long term sustainable lifestyle before embarking on any fad trends.

  • DENISA

    great article again! This is the issue I’ve been dealing with. Thinking that 100% raw is the way to go…however, I would be hungry all the time!! That was my biggest problem ;-) Other than that high raw is definitely full of benefits

    • http://www.vega-licious.com/ Elena

      I totally agree, Denisa.  If we were less busy with our lifestyles it would be more optimal, but we are a busy society, so, for caloric density, cooked foods have a place in our diet, and for sure are superior to fats and oils. 

  • http://getskinnygovegan.blogspot.com/ GetSkinnyGoVegan

    What is funny about that book, is that MOST of the recipes in it STILL are high fat, but they are just Omega types of fats!!!!  I agree about the Raw thing.  I actually feel better, as far as my digestion, if I do eat all raw whether it be high or low fat.  So I am trying to find a balance of raw and cooked, low fat foods.  I will NOT give up raw cheezecake, but thankfullly I only make it a few times a year.  Higher raw, and more fruits, tend to digest easier for me, but my belly is sensitive.  However, I am a MAJOR bean lover & cannot leave the spices alone!!  Overall though, I am Vegan first, so I never “emphasize” what type Raw, Cooked, Oil Free, blah, blah, blah-because I was Vegan first and have just kind of eaten healthier through the years-with age & wisdom & embracing more simplicity I guess.

    • http://www.vega-licious.com/ Elena

      :) As long as you are not loading up on your raw cheesecakes daily ;) . Once in a while I make baked desserts that might contain some fats too, but I also make them very rarely, so I feel you here.  

      Unfortunately for some vegan, does not mean healthy, just means no animal foods. I wish to help people strive for both–vegan and healthy–that is the best way to go. 

      As for finding a balance between raw and cooked, I strive not to get into labels and go by what my body needs during a specific time, and measure my success by my well being, so some days I might consume more raw foods, some days I go all raw, and some days I eat more cooked foods. Being label free is key ;) , otherwise people feel pressured to live up to a certain category and feel like they fail if they do not.

  • http://veggiev.wordpress.com/ Veronica

    As with any food we eat, educating oneself about it is key. For me, this includes figuring out what foods work for me – including how they’re prepared. Personally, a high-raw (in the 90%+ range), low-fat diet that is free of grains and beans and very limited on soy, plant sugars, nuts, seeds, whole food fats, and oils has been working great.

    You mention in your post “who would want that?” referring to grazing all day…I would! I love eating often and have never been satisfied with two or three larger meals. My digestives systems doesn’t like that either.

    I’m curious, too, how you came to the conclusion that you’d need to spend so much time eating. My caloric and nutrition intake in right on target for my activity level and fitness goals.  What I’ve found is people often think they need to consume WAY more calories than they actually need. For example, 1300-1500 calories keeps me a couple hundred calories below my BMR and allows me to build muscle while reducing body fat (my current fitness goal). Again, education is key.

    I’m not try to convince you to give raw a chance, but I do feel a little defensive. I think it’s far-reaching to say raw foodists are more likely to return to animal products to meet their nutritional needs. This stereotype is already rampant among omnivores; we shouldn’t have to defend ourselves against our peers and fellow plant-based eaters.

    • http://www.vega-licious.com/ Elena

      By grazing all day, I meant just that… all day.  I too eat small frequent meals, about 6-8 or so, and it works great for me. I NEVER count calories, I only eat when hungry and suggest the same for most, especially those weight obsessed or chronic dieters, and especially people who had previous eating disorders. 

      As far as giving raw a chance–I do it all the time ;) Like I mentioned, I think that high raw diet is optimal, and by definition it is (for some) 80% of your diet or more.  I find that a great benefit is achieved when people consume at least 50% of their diet as raw.  In the summer my raw intake goes to about 80-90%, but I am not into counting % so, I go by how I feel. 

      Sorry if you took this offensively–I did say in the article that I believe that there are people who can maintain ALL raw diet, but not most.  I have had too many friends leave an all raw diet to include animal products, although I wish they would have simply supplemented with B12 and ate some foods cooked. And by no means should you defend yourself–your foods are your choices.  Sorry if you felt that way.

  • http://simplydarlene.com/ SimplyDarlene

    Hey you, I am so glad you posted this. 

    I did 100% raw for over one year to fix some health issues. It worked. Now I am a high raw, unprocessed gal. I eat more cooked foods like brown rice and split peas and lentils in the winter and more sprouted things and salads in the summer. Balance is the key. 

    Closest to the vine is divine.

    Blessings,
    Darlene

    • http://www.vega-licious.com/ Elena

      Thanks for the input. Really helps when people with experience share.

  • Kellsbury

    I am doing a raw diet for cleasing for 2 weeks. Do you think that is a great way to start a diet of eating healthy afterwards?

    • http://www.vega-licious.com/ Elena

      Totally, as long as you avoid extracted oils.

  • RACHELLE MARSDEN

    I agree 100% with you with the flaws of the raw diet. I also agree with you about having a lifestyle that is very high raw! I just did a 10 day green smoothie cleanse (as you know) and  I think doing cleanses like that are so good for you, however I really feel like there is so much that we need in grains! When  I experimented with raw a few years back I became healthier than I had been in years (maybe ever), but when I moved towards living a whole foods, high raw diet with plenty of grains  I felt SO much healthier!

    • http://www.vega-licious.com/ Elena

      I do think that there is a time and place for all raw cleanses and maybe even seasons of life, but long term I also do not find it sustainable, otherwise I would have done it a long time ago ;) .

  • Treacle234

    Great post! but a raw food diet ranges from low fat, no fat, moderate to high fat diets.  What I notice from my research, is that raw foodists exclude/avoid a good number of foods esp from the legumes and staples food groups -grains/root crops, because they simply cannot be consumed raw, be it, the sprouted,or dehydrated forms. A number of persons who have been on a raw vegan diet for a number of years suffer with teeth and gum problems. A number of raw vegan females who follow a low fat diet, have irregular to no menstrual cycles and many suffer with fertility issues, amongst others. I remember, interviewing a female who followed a low fat to no fat raw vegan diet told me that it is “completely healthy and normal that she does not get her menstrual cycle anymore”. Anyway,  I firmly, believe consuming a raw vegan diet has it benefits only in the short-term. In the long term it is not sustainable. The questions I have that remain are is it nutritionally possible to sustain a pregnancy on a 100% raw food diet? 
    Could children under 10 years truly thrive on a 90-100% raw vegan diet?  I’m doubtful but to each it’s own, as with most dietary patterns there are flaws.

    • http://www.vega-licious.com/ Elena

      Yes, not having a menses IS a huge problem, and unfortunately is rampant with anyone who excludes even healthy fats (I am not talking about extracted oils). It is actually detrimental to our female health not to have it. 

      I do agree with the point that there are seasons where we might/need to be all raw for a while. There are times when I do 3-7 days raw to unload, but not longer than that. 

      I personally do not know if there are many people doing 100% raw, since most that I hear are about 90%, so that is a good question. But I heard that there is a couple who is big in the raw community who had a healthy pregnancy/baby, and might be continuing to be raw. 

      And you are correct, in our overly researched society, we can find flaws with almost any lifestyle, we need only open our mouths to do it ;) .  My goal is to strive for balance, that is why I took something from every major health movement: plant based from T Colin Campbell, no fat (concentrated fats) from Caldwell Esselstyn, high raw from the raw movement, green smoothies from V Boutenko, and B12 from a non-vegan source altogether. At the end of the day, I am looking to live in optimal health and this is what does it for me.