The Greater Good | Vaccine Conversations–Should We or Shouldn’t We?

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In the last few years the topic of vaccinations has become a hot one.  I know that is has become very important to me way before we even began our family. Having moved to the US from overseas I made my observations about American healthcare.  While I found a lot of good in it, there were a few things that raised my brows. I had to know what I could choose to live with, for myself and my future children, and what I have to avoid like the plague.

I have been wanting to write about this topic for a LONG, LONG time.  I actually did a couple short, sweet posts, about my personal choice on Facebook, only to be met with fire and brim stones from some readers.  One of them said: “You can have your opinion, but you should not share it with other, as to not influence them, because you are endangering them.” The person was not as kind in her remarks as I am paraphrasing her, but she did not leave even a dent in my fender. I choose to rise above narrow mindedness of someone who has been so brainwashed that s/he cannot even as much as dare to ask questions. And that is all that I will try to do in this post–help you to dare to ask questions, and then arrive at your own conclusions.

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A Choice?

To vaccinate or not to vaccinate? are normally the two polarized options we hear about, leaving nothing in between.  With the rise of autism, it seems that the big Pharma (pharmaceutical companies which stand to financially gain from the sale of medicines of all kinds, including vaccinations), which has the money to buy the big Media, portrayed concerned parents and damaged children as a ignorant, uncivilized, hysterical bunch of villains who wish to stop all vaccinations and bring an end to this world . It seems that they (the media and the Pharma)  had chosen to emphasize on this group of people, while totally ignoring other injuries resulting from vaccinations, including brain damage, behavioral problems, asthma, allergic reactions, skin disorders, and even death.  With some random cases of certain diseases happening here in there, on small scale, the media chooses to call them “outbreaks”, scaring everyone into only one choice–vaccinate, or… we will make you vaccinate.

While currently there are some (three) exceptions provided in all states to people who do not wish to vaccinate: medical, religious and philosophical,  they are being aggressively attacked and taken away, leaving some states with only one exceptions–medical, in most cases, only for people who already had an adverse reaction to medication and have been damaged. Do we really have freedom if the government now mandates vaccinations, and threatens us with an imprisonment if we do not follow its orders?

While the Americans are lulled to sleep with promises of freedom, happiness and protection to all, they do not realize that the freedoms are actually being taken away from them, with a false hope of security given in exchange.  “After all,” some argue, “the government,  the pharmaceutical companies, and certainly, the doctors, have only our best interest in mind,” while forgetting the second part of the equation–the almighty dollar which can buy people, government institutions and media alike.

As parents, and smart human beings, we still need to be able to exercise our choices! We know what is best for our kids, not someone who never met them, never spent a sleepless night taken care of them, and certainly, not someone who does not know how their little bodies work–each child is unique!

The Science

Our bodies are made up of approximately 10 trillion cells, and there are approximately 100 trillion bacteria living in/around our bodies. As Dr. Lawrence Palevsky said at a recent Health Conference I attended: “We are infested!” 🙂 We are literally covered by germs, which are not diseases, but can become such, if they are given the right kind of conditions (a lot of which are dietary and lifestyle based, which lead to a poor immunity).

While in-utero, the baby is protected from bacteria, yet, during birth she passes through a birth canal infested with germs and does not get infected! On the contrary, this exposure prepares the child for the world she is entering, making her stronger. (This would be a great reason for babies to be born vaginally ;)–to get the right kind of exposure.)

Viruses are smaller than bacteria. They cannot do anything on their own, and must have a host cell. Believe it or not, but our bodies carry DNA and RNA codes for viruses.  Again… we are infested! However, in the right conditions the bacteria is actually there to protect the body and to make it stronger.

Currently there are vaccinations offered against 21 bacteria and 21 viruses. If we are covered with 100 trillion bacteria, which probably constantly change and mutates too, why and how was the decision made to vaccinate against only the 21? Furthermore  20 of these bacteria are airborne, so it would be smart to think that there is high likelihood that the child gets exposed to them WAY before a scheduled vaccination shot… so, in that sense, the child is already naturally able to overcome those diseases on her own.

These are the kind of questions I asked myself and I want all Vegalicious readers to ask. Does the science make sense?

More Questions?

I know that there are large group of peoples thinking that until the recent age humans were dying young because there were no vaccinations.  Historically it is not correct, however.  The outbreaks of measles and polio, among other things, happened not because there were no vaccinations, but because dietary and hygienic circumstances were lacking. It is a published fact that the cases of both went down next to nothing before the vaccines for them were introduced and mandated by the government.

Neurotoxins

Mercury and aluminum are both neurotoxins–they do not belong in the body in any amount.  Both are present in the vaccines. While recently the amounts of mercury, due to public awareness, are being reduced in certain vaccines, an agitator is still needed to make the vaccine active in the body, so the amount of aluminum has been increased to make up for mercury–a little known fact.  When combined, as it now often happens, when a child gets a cocktail of shots, as opposed to getting one vaccine at a time, they (mercury and aluminum) make a threatening combination, which could forever damage certain children, and affect many more.

Blood Brain Barrier

Our body was beautifully designed to have a barrier between the body (internally) and the brain–some things simply do not belong in the brain, and if they end up getting through, can become deadly. What can possibly break this barrier? Hypertension, high blood sugar and salt (so, if a mother has any of these problems, then her unborn child is at risk of having BBB (blood brain barrier) disrupted). (MMR vaccines have sugar in them. ) Inflammation can disrupt BBB (flu shots cause inflammation, dangerous especially to pregnant women and children). A child’s BBB is not fully formed until she is 4-6 months of age!

Polysorbate 80, an ingredient in some vaccines, which also attaches itself to aluminum, could break BBB and be carried into the brain, along with aluminum.

When BBB is disrupted, things can get into the brain from the body, which do not belong there. As of yet, there are no studies done to see how many vaccines get into the brain of vaccinated children.

Safe?

Any medication, including vaccines, should be studies for years, in vaccinated and unvaccinated populations.  Not only the entire vaccine, but each ingredients in each vaccine should be closely observed for possible side effects, yet, no such studies have ever been done.  Most vaccines, just due to the sheer intention of their use, are fast tracked by FDA and hit the market before any short and long term side effects could be observed.  For example, if you take your child to a pediatrician, and your child receives a shot, the doctor will tell you to observe your child for 4-6 weeks (or less).  But what happens after 6 weeks? Isn’t that a good question to be asked? Better yet, ask your doctor about each vaccine ingredient, and how it has been studied. I will bet that he will have NO clue!

Few Casualties for the Greater Good

Yes, I did hear this argument too. “It is better that a few suffer or die, from some complications, but the population at large is protected in the process,” is some people’s argument. I can never believe my ears when I hear this, and always wonder–would they say that if it were their child who suffers complications, or even dies? Would they generously offer their baby for the greater good of humanity? I think not! See, I have friends who had vaccinated their children, thinking they are protecting them, only to find their little ones regress and become someone else, almost overnight.  These parents and children have been sacrificed for the supposed greater good. Let’s ask them how they feel about it.

When I attended the wellness conference last weekend, I ran into a young lady, who decided to get vaccinated with the Gardasil shot when she was 18. She had a reaction to it and developed an autoimmune disease right after. I watched her, as she was probing one of the speakers for any possible hope to her situation, with tears pouring down her face, and her Mother hopelessly watching her from a side. Things do change when they hit home, don’t they? All of a sudden the topics, such as vaccinations, which we ignore now, become near and dear to us.

Would you risk your child’s health and life (as a science experiment), so others could live?

Your Child Will Expose My Child

This is by far, the most ridiculous argument I hear: “Your unvaccinated child will expose my child to getting sick! You should be put in jail!” If vaccines work, and your child is vaccinated, would it stand to be true that your child should then be protected? Why then worry about anything?

There is More to It than Meets the Eye

This is an extensive and a very involved topic.  We can argue over it all day long.  At the end of the day, I do not ask you to take my word for it, or your doctor’s–I propose one thing to all of you–DO YOUR OWN HOMEWORK! Ask questions, research, pay attention–after all it is your children’s lives that are at stake! God forbid anything happens, you will not only suffer emotionally and financially, but you will have a hard time forgiving yourself for not paying closer attention to what is going into your child’s body.

Resources

Here are some other resources I would like to offer you:

The Greater Good

A recent documentary explores the very topic, which I just presented to you.  It does it in a very balanced way–exploring both sides of the equation–pro and against vaccinations, and even in between ;).  I highly encourage you to watch it–it will be money well spent.

The Greater Good can be watched online (that is how we did it–you pay and then a link is immediately sent to your inbox–keep an eye on your spam box too–and you have access to the movie for 5 days online), or order it to be emailed to you.

The Greater Good Movie – Trailer from BNP Pictures on Vimeo.

If you go to the movie’s official site, you will find a great list of references, Q&A, and other great things, which will help you make an informed decision. Before reaching a consensus on how we were going to raise our kids, this was one of the topics we explored very closely with my Husband. I encourage you to do the same.

Giveaway

When I watched the movie myself, I wanted to buy a few passes for my readers to giveaway. I contacted the people who made it to see if they wanted to contribute, and they were more than happy to!

We are giving away 2 online passes to see the movie, and 2 DVDs!  Anyone can enter for an online pass, while physical DVDs will be mailed only within the US.

WHEN: You can enter for the giveaway between now and midnight, EST on 11/11/12 (Sunday).

One entry per person! You must enter your email address in the comment form (NOT the comment itself!)

HOW: Simply leave a comment under this post, telling me why you would like to explore this topic and what exactly makes you ask questions.  Or you can tell me about your vaccination experience.

The winners will be drawn randomly, and will have 24 hours to respond to claim their prizes, once the announcement is posted.

After entering  please take a few seconds to repost a link to this post on Facebook, Twitter, or whatever other social network you are a part of–the buttons are conveniently placed at the top of this post.

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Comments

  1. MOM of 3 says:

    Lucky for your children most of us get vaccinated! There are plenty of examples out there of parents who chose not to vaccinate only to regret their decision after their child dies from the very illness they decided NOT to protect against. Not vaccinating is taking a very small chance of huge consequences. I’ll choose to take an even smaller chance of moderate consequences and vaccinate.
    And to Elena, have you ever seen a child with Polio, Rubella, Small Pox, etc? I’m going to go out on a limb and say NO, because no one would choose not to vaccinate after seeing these diseases firsthand. Also, those who are angered by your decision have every right to be. Vaccines aren’t 100% effective, and more importantly, some people cannot be vaccinated for other medical reasons.

    http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/whatifstop.htm

    • No, but I have seen a man with polio after being vaccinated for it as a child. Have you ever seen a healthy child become ill or develop autism after being vaccinated? Maybe, you should talk to some parents of children that have been suffering ever since. I think everyone should do what is in the best interest of their own children, and if you feel better vaccinating your kids, then that is your prerogative, and if others do not share in your decision and choose not vaccinate their kids, then that is their business.

  2. Hi Elena,
    Neither my 5 year old nor my 8 month old have been vaccinated. They both are just finally coming through the end of whooping cough which has been going on in our house for almost 3 months now. My daughter actually just woke up coughing as I type this. The virus was terrifying – especially when my 5 month old went through a week where his coughing fits would last up to 5 minutes where he could barely breathe. It was not pleasant to say the least.

    Contrary to what you might be expecting me to say next, this experience has solidified my decision not to vaccinate. Whooping cough was the disease I was most afraid of when researching vaccinations. I spent hours madly researching treatment options and found several alternative methods of treatment including vitamin c therapy. I watched my babies get through it and now they have natural immunity which no vaccine can offer. I also learned that they are now recommending frequent boosters for WC as new info shows the current vaccine is not very effective to say the least and even if it is, immunity wanes after 5 or so years. I’m quite happy I did not risk my babies’ health on the dtap vaccine especially now knowing its admitted ineffectiveness. Plus my children can now pass on their natural immunity to their children which unfortunately I was unable to do for them as the opportunity was taken away when my parents chose to vaccinate me. Anyway, I’m just happy to share my story in a forum where this opinion is accepted and valued and I hope it will help others 🙂 (I am in Canada if that is relevant here)

    • Lisa, I am not surprised at all that your decision is now more solid than ever. My little tot got a cold only 6 weeks after being born. She got over in less than two days and now her immunity is stronger because of it. We gave her everything she needed to get better fast, as you did to your kids.

      Thank you for sharing your story!

  3. With my first two babies, I had NO hesitations in vaccinating them, even when my firstborn had violent vomiting reactions each time. I trusted our pediatrician’s advice (still do–he is also a friend and I believe he wouldn’t intentionally lead me astray). I also felt that those who didn’t vaccinate were being irresponsible, and I worried about their children’s health. (I was never worried about their children giving mine disease, though–seriously, what sense does that make?!)

    Fast forward a few years, and to our third baby…each time I’ve brought him in for his vaccinations, it is with a heavy heart and a pit in my stomach, wondering if I am doing the right thing. All my life I’ve been taught the importance of vaccinating, but I do not like the idea of putting poison into my baby’s little body, for the sake of keeping him “healthy”. I definitely need to research this topic more thoroughly, and would be very interested in a copy of this video.

    • Michelle, wow, that is horrible! You definitely should check out this documentary.

      I am sure that your pediatrician has your kids’ well-being in mind. The trouble is, most doctors don’t even know to question vaccinations. They are trained to trust medicine.

  4. would love to learn more!

  5. Jennifer Bucheli says:

    This is a subject which causes me much grief. It is so hard to know what is the right thing that will not cause harm to our children. Of course I would never want to do anything that would cause them any harm. I appreciate your post and your information. I will check out the video.

    • Jennifer, certainly check around and do your research. I think what helps me is the fact that when we lived overseas we barely ever got vaccinated and we did not have any major health issues to speak about in general. It was not until we immigrated into the USA where I saw such an outbreak of different diseases.

  6. I would love to watch this! My children have been on a delayed vaccine schedule since birth but im open to more research!

  7. No vax here. Of course, we may revisit a few here and there but do not agree with the aggressiveness and the horrible ingredients of them, let alone the safety issues. Like you, I always wonder why people are so up in arms about the exposure vax’d kids have to unvax’d kids. Huh??? I guess their thinking is we’re allowing the disease to continue to exist but I don’t think so. I will say, that if a parent does choose to vax their child(ren), I don’t judge. I just get crabby if I feel they’re judging me for not. I’m just doing what it is best for MY child.

    • I am with you–I could not judge parents who simply want the best for their kids and that is what they believe. My heart simply breaks when the kiddos get hurt.

  8. I do not currently have children. My husband and I would like to start trying once he’s out of school in December. I’m already having an interesting time discussing ultrasounds, prenatal vitamins, and other aspects of pregnancy/birth/children with him. We really enjoy documentaries and I think being able to see this one will help us be able to form educated opinions about vaccinations even before we’re faced with the decision once our baby is born. Knowing these things ahead of time reduce the frustration, nervousness, and pressure that a new parent can have put on them.

  9. rawlawgirl says:

    I raised my son without so much as one vaccination, pill, or potion. He is now 28. He went to both public and private schools around many children of various backgrounds. It is a personal choice, but do not make it out of fear. I read and read. Knowledge is power.

  10. I would like to enter the contest because a friend lent me the DVD and I watched it last night. I am so blown away by the information that is just laying around and being ignored. Every parent should have informed consent before vaccination and I’d like to help spread the word.

  11. I have a nephew who “mysteriously” began having severe and multiple allergic reactions to almost everything. This was 6-8 weeks after having been vac’d for the bird flu if I remember correctly. I’m after any and all GOOD information on this subject.

    Thank you for a great blog

  12. I love your message, and appreciate your opinion on the topic. I have been researching about vaccines for a while, and I know what to do. A blog I’m subscribed to “Modern Alternative Mama,” has a series of posts on vaccines that I loved reading on. She did her research on all the vaccines and put all that data on her blog. I tell everyone I know about it so they can arm themselves against naysayers, and find out the things that they don’t tell you about the risks. God Bless!

  13. adorpheus says:

    Hi! I’d like to enter this contest… I’m really interested in the side effects of vaccines, mostly because I too am wary of big pharmaceutical companies, especially those trying to make a profit off of treatment.

    Personally, I received the Gardasil vaccine and noticed no ill side effects, however it was very expensive and my insurance company said they would cover it and then later sent me a bill basically saying “just kidding, you owe us $300”. The fact that they even charge that much for a vaccine is ridiculous.

  14. Ida Viljoen says:

    Thank you for this article. I was and still is one of the most difficult (and lonely) decisions I had to make regarding my child’s health care. I have been told by my child’s pediatrician that I’m neglecting my child, my parents think I’m nuts. I do believe it is a very personal choice, and I avoid conversations with other parents about it (I don’t ever want to be in a position trying to defend my choices, and sometimes parents expect me to convince them of my point). I do believe there is a place for vaccines. I live in Africa-vaccines are effective in controlling disease in highly populated areas, it may prevent deaths from these disease in malnourishes children (like in Africa), so in this case the risk of a vaccine is probably lower than contracting the disease itself. For my child, I figured the risk of vaccinating definitely outweighed the benefit…

  15. Elena,

    I very much respect your opinion, however I have a different view that I would like to express. Like you, and many others, I was against vaccinations. I chose to not vaccinate my child, and when she was about 18 months old, we were out to eat and she pulled a high chair over on her and split her forehead open, requiring 10 stitches. The doctor asked me if she had had a tetanus shot and I said no, that I was against vaccines. They respected my wishes and treated me and my child like any other family, however the doctor asked me to please, for my child’s sake, consider getting her the shot. We live in San Diego and there is a large population from both here and across the border that are not vaccinated. Plus with the incident happening in a restaurant, god only knows what kind of germs were on the high chair and introduced to her bloodstream.

    When I got home that night I researched Tetanus, as well as many other diseases that we vaccinate for. I was horrified to consider that my child could get one of these diseases and suffer and possibly die because of my opinions. I decided that it was my job as a mother to protect my child in every way possible, and if that included vaccinations, then so be it.

    My next story has to do with my older daughter, she was vaccinated as an infant because I had her very young and had not known anything about vaccines, I figured I got vaccinated and it didn’t do any damage, so what the heck. Well, when my older daughter was up for her boosters for whooping cough and chicken pox it just so happened to coincide with my anti-vaccine phase. I did not get her the boosters. The first problem with this arose just after I had given birth to my fourth child and my daughter came down with chicken pox. To have a newborn baby, breastfeeding or not, in the house with chicken pox, is a scary situation. I can’t say for certain, however I feel that being exposed to this virus at such a young age weakened her immune system. My newborn developed RSV and had to be hospitalized for two weeks because she could not breathe on her own. This was a terrifying situation for me and my family. No, I don’t think that she got the virus from the chicken pox virus (I am not an idiot, I realize they are two separate viruses), and I know that since I was breastfeeding, she was getting my immunities, however I do think that by her body trying to fight the one virus, her immune system lost the strength it needed to fight other viruses and she became more susceptible to them.

    My oldest daughter has always hated shots and I figured at ten or twelve she should have some say in what happens to her body. She did not want to get her whooping cough booster, even with the previous disaster with the chicken pox. I allowed her to make her own choice, and what do you know, in eighth grade she got whooping cough and was hospitalized for ten days. Again, for the third time, I was sitting in a hospital, facing the fact that my child could die from going unvaccinated. As a mother, I decided this was not an acceptable risk.

    I realize that there are many people who chose not to vaccinate for whatever reason, and that is your choice. I also know that it is difficult to wade through all of the information on both sides and determine what is true and what is propaganda (because both sides have a LOT of propaganda). I know for me, as a mother, I cannot take chances with my children’s lives. I live in an area that is high risk for many of these diseases that we have vaccines for, and I feel that it is my job as a mother, to make the decisions that are best for my children, which are not necessarily the decisions that fit my opinions. I have come to these crossroads again and again as a parent where there is a difference between what I feel, what I believe, and what is in the best interests of my children. Sometimes, in order to ensure that they are healthy and happy and safe, I have to take myself out of the picture.

  16. Thanks so much Elena for opening this topic of discussion. I strongly believe that it’s a parent’s right to determine what is right for their own children. Children should be raised by their parents, NOT the government and most certainly NOT big pharma!

    No more vaccines for my family. I only wish I’d known about this problem before having my children, but I’m looking ahead, not behind.

    The more people become aware the better we can effect positive change in this world.

    God bless you and yours!

  17. I am very interested in the vaccines topic. Two years ago my husband got Guillian Barre syndrome. He was completely paralyzed for 4 months and had to learn to do everything again. He still has lots of problems from the GBS. I did lots of research and found it is caused by a build up of vaccinations. My kids were both vaccinated because I did not know better at the time. But I still worry about the ones that they did have. Since they have a dad with GBS and an aunt with MS they are more likely to develop an auto immune disease. When a person receives a flu shot it warns on the bottom of the consent form in small print that you may develop GBS. You would much rather have the flu for a week than have the entire rest of your life affected from GBS. Was the girl you mentioned affected by GBS?

    • Amy, the girl was affected by that specific vaccine. You brought up an interesting point about the flu shot insert. Now i have to check it out.

  18. Rachelle Marsden says:

    Elena! Thank you SO much for this! You already know my story, we immunized our first completely and then on baby number two after an immunization we noticed that the swelling didn’t go down, after a week or so we called the Dr and they seemed confused, but said to just keep rubbing it in. We did and it didn’t go away for over a month! This is my little one who now can be considered autistic, though we just love him and think of him as our son. I regret what we did EVERY day and I am so thankful for the freedoms that we have (as hidden as they may be) to choose whether we will immunize or not! God forbid they ever be taken away from us! Needless to say that my littlest one has never had an immunization and he has been my healthiest baby/toddler yet! I would love to watch/have this and I would love to be able to share it with others. I love all of your posts, but these hard to write ones where most people would not dare touch, these are the posts that make me love your blog. YOU are great. Thanks for shining your light. 🙂

  19. IMPORTANT: Hey Elena, thanks for a great article. I am part way through and have found an embarrassing spelling error “…your children’s lives that are at steak!” the correct spelling is stake. Being vegan, I’m sure you dont like to eat children steaks either :p. Unfortunately I couldn’t figure out how to message you privately (tried FB too). Please delete my message after correcting the error if you like 🙂

  20. Mathryoshka says:

    P.S. i’m not entering the giveaway as I’m not in the USA!

  21. This is such a touchy subject. If we really want to protect our kids, they would never get in car, leave the house or have a life lol. I respect everyone’s personal opinion about vaccines. We have chosen to vaccinate, however,I believe vaccinated or not my family is covered by the blood of Jesus. just like I trust him to protect us from many things, he will protect us from sickness. If we do get sick I believe in the power of prayer and healing. Thank goodness we can still enjoy this freedom (for now)

  22. Mathryoshka says:

    I chose to say No to vaccines for my daughter, who’s 3 and a half today 🙂
    We decided to give her a tetanus shot when she was about 1 year old, because she was playing outside a lot and I felt it was the right choice for us.
    Now I don’t really know if it’s just luck, I only have this daughter after all and you can’t undo things and see how would it go if…
    She had a mild cold a few times and with more than 200 different types of cold viruses I consider it to be normal 🙂
    She had a stomach bug when she was 21 months and I was still breastfeeding her so basically she nursed 24 hours a day for a few days, and unlike many other children she didn’t need to be hospitalized in order to get IV to keep hydrated.
    Some people told us we’re killers and bla bla bla but we think we made the right choice, she’s healthy, with a very efficient immune system even now that she started preschool she’s one of the few children who didn’t miss any school day due to illness.
    Here in Italy we have now the chance to say no to vaccinations but the health system keep sending parents invitation to get their children inoculated and many people don’t know it’s not compulsory anymore and they just do it because they think it’s the right thing to do or don’t want to choose on such a difficult subject.

    I don’t think there is just one universal truth and each parents should do what make them feel safe and happy.

    I agree that you should still say things, why on Earth should a person do what you say without thinking about it? You have the right to say what is right for you, to have your ideas and to fight for them. It’s not like you’re telling people they’re moron if they don’t do what you say!

    I’m not vegan and I don’t believe in God, still I LOVE reading your posts, your recipes and I’m planning to try your green smoothies detox 🙂 Of course there are things I agree with and other I don’t but it’s a matter of respect for other people choices, life, faith or whatever. Respect people. It’s not that difficult, isn’t’ it?

    • You are right. We can learn from each other, either people we do not agree with. I call it “not throwing the baby out with the bath water”. Although you might disagree with a few things I believe in, I am sure we can find a few we do agree on 🙂

      • Mathryoshka says:

        Exactly. And even on things we disagree, since we are civilized moms, we’re still respecting each other and this is the most important thing! 🙂

        By the way… what time is it in there? I always miss giveaways because I think they happen while I sleep 😀

  23. schultzandcompany says:

    I am very interested to see this video. Thanks for posting such a great article!!!

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